and I welcome you to the first of the twenty twenty presidential debates between president Donald J. trump and former vice president Joe Biden
this debate is sponsored by the commission on presidential debates the commission has designed the format six roughly fifteen minute segments with two minute answers from each candidate to the first question then open discussion for the rest of each segment both campaigns have agreed to these rules for the record I decided the topics and the questions in each topic I can assure you none of the questions has been shared with the commission what are the two candidates this debate is being conducted under health and safety protocols designed by the Cleveland clinic which is serving as the health security adviser to the commission for all four debates as a precaution both campaigns have agreed the candidates will not shake hands at the beginning of tonight's debate
the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent no cheers no booze or other interruptions so we and more importantly you can focus on what the candidates have to say no noise except right now as we welcome the Republican nominate president trump and the democratic nominee vice president Mike
a lot of people been waiting for this night so let's get going our first subject is the Supreme Court
president trump you nominated Amy Coney Barrett over the weekend to succeed the late Ruth better Ginsburg on the court you say the constitution is clear about your obligation and the Senate's to consider a nominee to the court vice president Biden you say that this is an effort by the president and Republicans to jam through an appointment and what you call an abuse of power my first question to both of you tonight why are you right and make the argument you make and your opponent wrong and where do you think a justice Barrett would take the court president trump and that's for a segment in the first two minutes thank you very much Chris I will tell you very simply we won the election elections have consequences we have the Senate we have the White House and we have a phenomenal nominee respected by all top top academic
good in every way good in every way in fact as some of her biggest endorsers are very liberal people from Notre Dame in other places so I think she's going to be fantastic we have plenty of time even if we did it after the election itself I have a lot of time after the election as you know so I think that %HESITATION she will be outstanding she's going to be as good as anybody that has served on that court we really feel that %HESITATION we have a professor at Notre Dame highly respected by all said she's the single greatest student he's ever had he's been a professor for a long time in a grade school and %HESITATION we just %HESITATION we won the election and therefore we have the right to choose her and very few people knowingly would say otherwise and by the way the Democrats they would even think about not doing it if they have the only difference is to try and do it faster there's no way they would give it up they had Merrick garland but the problem is they didn't have the elections so they were stopped and probably that would happen in reverse also definitely would happen rivers so we won the election and we have the right to do it Chris
president trump thank you %HESITATION same question to you vice president Biden you have two minutes well first of all %HESITATION thank you for doing this in order dismissed pregnant yeah hi %HESITATION
the American people have a right to have a say in who the Supreme Court nominee is that say a curse when they vote for a United States senators and when they vote for the president I'd states
they're not going to get that chance now because we're in the middle of an election already election is already started
tens of thousands of people already voted and some of the things should happen is we should wait we should wait and see what the outcome of this election is because that's the only way the American people get to express their view is by who they elect as president who they elect as vice president now what's at stake here is the president made clear he wants to get rid of the affordable Care Act he's been running on that he ran on that and he's a man governing on
he's in the Supreme Court right now trying to get rid of %HESITATION the end of the affordable Care Act which %HESITATION will strip twenty million people from having insurance health insurance now if it if they ever goes into court and and %HESITATION the justice and I have nothing I'm not opposed to the justices are she seems like a very fine person but she's written before she went to the bench which is her right that she thinks that the affordable Care Act is not constitutional the other thing is on the court and if the engine was struck down what happens women's rights are fundamentally changed once again a woman could be held more money because she has a pre existing condition of pregnancy we're able they're able to charge women more for the same exact procedure Amanda gets and that ended when we in fact pass before double correct and there's a hundred million people who have pre existing conditions and they'll be taken away as well those pre existing conditions that insurance companies are gonna love this and so it's just not appropriate to do this before this election if he wins the election and the senators Democrat or Republican then if he goes forward if not we should wait until February are there aren't a hundred million people with pre existing conditions as far as a say is concerned the people already had their say they
okay justice Ginsburg said very powerfully very strongly at some point ten years ago or so she said the president and the Senate is elected for a period of time but the president's elected for four years we're not elected for three years I'm not elected for three years so we have the Senate we have a president elected to the next during that period of time during that period of time we have an opening I'm not elected for three years %HESITATION elected for four years in the country are you startled gel the hundred million people is totally wrong I don't know where you got that number the biggest problem that you have is that you're going to extinguish one hundred and eighty million people with their private health care that they very simply not true well yes and no I just wish list I had only just noticed when I went to John that we're now into open just got open discussion discussion yes I great advice press number one %HESITATION he he knows that %HESITATION what I proposed what I propose is that %HESITATION we expand upon the care and we increase it we do not wipe any and the one of the big debates we had with twenty three of my colleagues trying to win the nomination that I won we're saying that Biden wanted to allow people to have private insurance till they came in they do they will under my proposal not what you said is not what it already is that is simply doesn't say your body wasn't ago socialist matters RT is any ocean is right now I am and they dominate you Joe you know that I am the Democratic Party right now the platform of the Democratic to harness is what hi in fact approved of what I approved here's the deal the deal is that is going to wipe out pre existing Jim by the way the twenty two hundred million to two hundred thousand people have died on his watch there how many of those and so they have survived over seven million people have contracted covert what does it mean for them going forward if you strike down the affordable Care Act and show you three hundred and eight thousand mill
literary people dying because you couldn't provide improper health care in the military so don't tell me I'm happy to talk about and if you were here you
under it it would be two million people because you were very late on the draw you
China which was heavily infected you don't want me to ban all right what a gentleman
you would have been right later just
Mr president about two million people
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we're going to talk about called in the next segment but well I had let me finish the point is that the president also is opposed to roe V. Wade that's on the ballot as well and the court in the court and so that's also at stake right now and so the election is all you know you know what I why is it on the ballot because
on the ballot it's on the ballot I don't think so the court was nothing happening there Donna with her view on roe V. Wade I don't
all right let's all right let's talk I would
we got a lot to unpack here generally a lot of times
on health care and with that will come back to roe V. Wade all right Mr president that the Supreme Court will hear a case a week after the election in which the trump administration along with eighteen state attorneys general are seeking to overturn that's right Obama Kerr and obamacare you have spent the last week because I want to give I would help him get by and I asked that question Sir good health care all over %HESITATION the last four years you have promised to repeal and replace obamacare but you have never in these four years come up with a plan on a comprehensive plans in place obamacare first half well I got out of hand to give you I got rid of the individual mandate which was not a comprehensive that is absolutely a big thing that was
Islamic terror I mean ask Michael Collins to go down I do not enjoy and it was the most unpopular aspect of atomic right I got rid of my life and we will protect
later in this day and I would like you to let me ask my question and then you can answer that for you in the course of these four years have never come up with a comprehensive plan to replace
obamacare and just this last Thursday you signed a largely symbolic executive order to protect people with pre existing conditions five days before this debate so my questions are is what is the trump healthcare plan well first of all I guess I'm debating you not him but that's okay I'm not surprised let me just tell you something like that because nothing symbolic I'm cutting drug prices I'm going with favored nations which no president has encouraged to do because you're going against big pharma co drug prices will be coming down eighty or ninety percent you could have done it during the forty seven year period in government but you didn't do it nobody's done it so we're cutting health care about all of the things that we've done
I give an example insulin it's going to it was destroying families destroying people the because I'm getting it for so cheap it's like quarter you want to know the truth so cheap take a look at all of the drugs that what we're doing prescription drug prices we're gonna allow our governors now to go to other countries to buy drugs because when it's a tiny just a tiny fraction of doesn't open discussion
author you'll be happy I'm about to pick up on one of your points to ask the vice president which is he points out that you would like to add a public option to obamacare the argument that he makes another Republicans night is that that is going to end private insurance it is well
if I start asking the question and it will let users by the way it will end private insurance and create a government takeover of healthcare does not it's only for those people who are so poor they qualify for Medicaid they can get that free in most states except governors who want to deny people or poor Medicaid anyone who qualifies for Medicare were met emission B. Medicaid automatically be enrolled in the public option the vast majority of the American people would still not be in that option number will tell you about with Bernie Sanders
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the fact of the matter is by B. Bernie Sanders not by much by beating the whole level I'm not sure I understand facing this sort of level two days early you would almost every problem he knows how to use that he got a very large a deal I got very lucky very lucky tonight as well and tonight I'm going to make sure because here's the deal here's a deal the fact is that everything he said so far is simply a lie I'm not here to call out as lies everybody knows he's a liar but you know I just
I want to make sure your did last night last night first hi
I want to make sure residents can you let him finish Sir he don't know how to do that T. as in all right state you pick it be surprised on guy the wrong right or wrong time listen you agreed with Sanders said the medical
there is no manifesto nobody wants to make Mr number two just lost the left number two you just lost the left you agreed with Bernie Sanders on a plan hi folks salute legal
socialized medicine Mr president anyway he is not for any help for people needing health care because because he in fact already has cost ten million people their health care that they have from their employers because of his recession number one number two there are twenty million people getting health care through obamacare now that he wants to take it away he won't ever look look and I'd say that's what he wants to do take it away I want to give numbers healthcare at a much lower price
he doesn't a hundred sixty is never over to an extent he has
no but probably doesn't
speaking at the same time it's too expensive let the presidents I have several bomb a care is no good we made it better and I had a choice to make very early on we took away the individual mandate we guarantee pre existing conditions but took away the individual mandate
listen this is the way it is and that destroyed that they shouldn't even call it obamacare then I had a choice to make do I let my people run it really well
more badly if I run it badly they'll probably blame him but they'll blame me but more importantly it will help people okay I see you got a runner so well that's it and I just had a meeting with them they said the problem is no matter how well you run obamacare it's a disaster it's too expensive
hi that is what we we know you want to get rid of it
we want to get rid of I understand that Sir but I have to give you roughly equal time please let the vice president
he has no plan for health care he was with his hands planes he sends out wishful thinking he can has executive orders have no power he hasn't lower drug costs for anybody's been promising health care plan since he got elected he has none like almost everything else he talks about he does not have a plan he doesn't have a plan and the fact is this man doesn't know what he's talking about I have once I have one final question for you sure %HESITATION Mr vice president
if Senate Republicans we were talking originally by the Supreme Court here if Senate Republicans go ahead and confirm justice Barrett %HESITATION there has been talk about ending the filibuster or even packing the court adding to the nine justices there you call this a distraction by the president but in fact it wasn't brought up by the president it was brought up by some of your democratic colleagues in the Congress so my question to you is you have refused in the past to talk about it are you willing to tell the American people tonight whether or not you will support either ending the filibuster war packing the quiver position I taken that that'll become the issue the issue is the American people should speak you should go out and vote you're in voting now vote and let your senators know how you get on and you feel it let me vote not a factor sure you in fact let people know his order senator Russia I'm not going to answer the question because your question is
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to give a little offended this segment we're gonna move on to the second segment I was really productive segment one
keep yapping men the people understand Jenna should face forty seven years you've done nothing vendors all right the second subject is a covert nineteen which is an awfully serious subjects so
let's try to be serious about it we have had more than seven million cases of corona virus and the United States and more than two hundred thousand people have died even after we produce a vaccine experts say that it could be months or even years before we come back to anything approaching normal my question for both of you is based on what you what the sad and done so far and what you have said you would do starting in twenty twenty one why should the American people trust you more than your opponent
to deal with this public health crisis going forward in this case the question goes to you first Sir two minutes uninterrupted
good luck
two hundred thousand dead you said over seven million fact in the United States we in fact have five percent were four percent of the world's population twenty percent of the deaths forty thousand people dead a day are contracting covert in addition to that about between seven fifty a thousand people there died when he was presented with that number he said it is what it is what is what is because you are who you are that's why it is the president has no plans he hasn't laid out anything he knew all the way back in February how serious this crisis was he knew it was a deadly disease what did he do he's on tape isn't knowledge she knew it he said he didn't tell us or give people a warning of it because he didn't want to panic the American people you don't panic he panicked in addition to that what did you do he would end any we were insisting that the Chinese of the people we had on the ground in China should be able go to want and determine for themselves how dangerous this was he did not even as she to do that he told us what a great job she was doing he said we owe him a debt of gratitude for being soft transparent with us and what did he do that he then did nothing he he waited and waited and waited he still doesn't have a plan I laid out a large exactly so we should be doing and I laid out again in July what we should be doing we should be provided all the protective gear plus we should be providing the money the house has passed in order to be able to go out and get people the help they need to keep your business is open open schools a cost a lot of money you should get out of your bunker and get out of the sand trap and get into your golf course and go in the oval office to bring together the Democrats Republicans and find what needs to be done now to save lives so if we would have listed two minutes Sir
if we would have listened to you the country would have been left wide open millions of people would have died not two hundred thousand and one person is too much it's China's fault it should have never happened they stopped it from going in but it was China's fault by the way when you talk about numbers you don't know how many people died in China you don't know how many people died in Russia you don't know how many people died in India they don't exactly give you straight can't just so you understand but if you look at what we've done I closed it and you said he sent a phobic he's a racist and xenophobic because you don't have to close our country not just letting it says two minutes you didn't think we should close our country because you thought it was too it was terrible you wouldn't close it for another two months by my doing it early in fact Dr Fauci said president trump saved thousands of lives many of you Democrat governor said president trump did a phenomenal job we work with the governing %HESITATION really go take a look the governors said I did a phenomenal job most of them said that contract people that would not be necessarily on my side said that president trump did a phenomenal job we did we got the gallons we get the masks we made the ventilators you wouldn't of made ventilators and now we're weeks away from a vaccine we're doing therapeutics already fewer people are dying when they get sick far fewer people are dying we've done a great job the only thing I haven't done a good job and that's because of the fake news no matter what you say to him they give you bad press on it's just fake news they give you good press they give me bad press because that's the way it is unfortunate but let me just say somebody care I've got used to it but I'll tell you Joe you could never have done the job that we did you don't have it in your blood you could have never done that yet I know how to do the job I know how to get the job we do very well in swine flu H. one N. one you were a disaster your own shorts stands about fourteen thousand people died not two hundred thousand there were circulated
there was no
ointment and answer and there is no one there's no we didn't shut down the economy this is his economy and speed he shut down recent shutdowns because look you folks at home how many got up this morning and had an empty chair at the kitchen table because someone died a covert how many of you are in a situation where you lost your mom or dad you could even speak to me had a nurse holding the phone up so you can in fact say goodbye little us far far more people than you would have been by the way later only
his own CDC director says we could lose as many as another two hundred thousand people between now and the end of the year and he held me said if we just wear a mask we can save half those numbers just just a mass and by the way in terms of the the whole notion of a vaccine for for a vaccine but we I don't trust him at all or do you I know you don't we trust as a scientist you know refresh our knowledge about Johnson five we we
and let me let me move on to questions about the future because you both have touched on one of the two of the questions I'm gonna ask %HESITATION focusing on the future first president trump you have repeatedly either contradicted or been at odds with some of your government's on top scientists the week before last the head of the centers for disease control Dr Redfield said it would be summer before that the vaccine would become generally available to the public you said that he was confused and mistaken those are your two words the hot doctor slough away the head of your operation were speed has said exactly the same thing are they both wrong well I've spoken to the companies that we can have it a lot sooner so very political thing because people like this would rather make a political and save lives it is a very political thing I've spoken to Fizer has spoken to all of the people that you have to speak to we have great modern at Johnson and Johnson and others they can go faster than that by a lot become very political because the left or I don't know if
have your operation words to be doctors I disagree with him no I disagree with us have I didn't say that he said it could be there but it could also be much and I by Adam in my office today he talked about the summer Sir before it's generally available
S. ability that will have the answer before November first it could also be able to generally available well we're going to deliver it right away we have the military all set up logistically they're all set up we have our military that deliver soldiers and they can do two hundred thousand a day they're going to be this is the same man it's all set up by Easter this should be gone away by the warm weather it be gone miraculously commerical by the way maybe could inject some bleaching your arm that would take care of it this is a somewhat sarcastic I was you know that I I would have said Sir Ken so here's the deal this man is talking about a vaccine every serious every serious companies talking about maybe having a vaccine done by the end of the year but the distribution of that vaccine will not occur until sometime beginning in the middle of next year to get it out if we get the vaccine and pray god we will regard we will survive friends I want to pick up the
I still want to make up on this question though you say the public can trust the scientists but they can't trust president trump in fact you said that again tonight your running mate senator Harris goes further saying the public health experts quote will be muzzled we'll be surprised given the fact that polls already show that people are concerned about the vaccine a reluctant to take it are you and your running mate senator Harris contributing to that fear no more than the question you just asked if you pointed out he puts pressure and disagrees with his own scientists addressing senator Harris's I don't can't cross the sound well no no you can't trust the scientists he does she does say that you can't you know she said the public vote will be muzzled we'll get a price well the that's what he's going to try to do but there's millions of silencers thousands scientists out there like here at this great hospital that don't work for him their job done depend on him that's not there the people there and by the way to the scientists that are in charge the way they will have the vaccine very says you believe for a moment
what he's telling you in light of all the lies he's told you about the whole issue relating to covert he still hasn't even acknowledged that he knew this was happening knew how dangerous is going to be back in February and he didn't even tell you he's on record as saying that he panicked or he just looked at the stock market one of the two because guess what a lot of people died and a lot more going to die unless he gets a lot smarter a lot
resident did use the word smart
%HESITATION so you said you went to Delaware state but you forgot the name of your college you can go to Delaware state he graduated even the lowest or almost the lowest in your class don't ever use the word smart with me don't ever use that word %HESITATION give me because you know what and there's nothing smart about you Joe forty seven years you've done now said this to better you would have had to let me just tell you something you know if you would have had the charge of what I was put through I had closed the greatest economy in the history of our country and by the way now is being built against them in the next segment Sir okay it's going up fast okay when it comes to how the virus has been handled so far the two of you have taken very different approaches and this is going to affect how the virus is handled going forward by whichever of you winds up becoming the next president I want to quickly go through several of those three openings vice president Biden you have been much more reluctant than president trump about re opening the economy and the schools why Sir because you don't have a plan and if I were running I know half of what the plan is you've got to provide these businesses the ability to have the money to be able to reopen with the PP as well as with the of sanitation they need you have to provide a nasty closely to
well he's just just for a minute tele two years ago C. as you shop Nancy Pelosi and Schumer they have a plan he won't even meet with them the Republicans won't we really said it but he he sits he sits at his golf courses wow I'm literally I think about it you probably more than I do just what about this question of re opening this and the fact he wants to shut down this country and I want to keep it open and we did
when a minute chat let me set you down for a second job just for one second
we want to he wants to shut down the country we just went through it we had to because we don't know anything about the disease now we found that elderly people with heart problems and diabetes and different problems are very very vulnerable we learned a lot young children aren't %HESITATION even younger people aren't we've learned a lot but he wants to shut it down more people will be hurt by continuing if you look at Pennsylvania if you look at certain states that have been shut down they have democratic governors all one of the reasons shut down is because they want to keep it shut down until after the election
one does not want to go on to another
and I'm not I'm doing well there should
respond to have gone to increasingly question the effectiveness of the masks as a disease prevent her and in fact recently you have cited the the issue of of waiters touching their mouths and touching plates are you questioning though I think the vast majority of it I don't understand if you look I mean I have a mass grave here I put the mask on it when I think I need it tonight is an example everybody's had a test and you had social distancing and all of the things that you have to but I will remember when needed when needed I wear a mask okay let me ask I don't know I don't wear masks like him every time you see him he's got a mesquite could be speaking two hundred feet away from any shows up with the biggest mask I've ever seen I will say by what my friends are invited go ahead Sir look the way to open businesses is given the where with all to be able to open we provided money the card I was asking us about masks well mask mask make a big difference his own head of the CDC said if we just wore mashed between now if they're everybody wore mask is social distance between now and January we probably save up to a hundred thousand lives it matters and they've also set up a set
no serious person said the opposite the models and will actually Dr Fauci said the minute left in the management are not good any changes mind is administered
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one last subject because you're different approaches is even affected the way that you have the campaign president trump you're holding the large rallies with crowds packed together thousands of
outside yes Sir a great %HESITATION vice president Biden you are holding much smaller %HESITATION I'll dance with nobody will show up people with
nobody shows up to his arrest all right in any case why you holding the big rallies why you not you goes for Sir because people want to hear what I have to say I mean
president and I have twenty five thirty five thousand people show up at airports we use airport are you not worried about we have
well so far we have had no problem whatsoever it's outside that's a big difference according to the experts we do amount said we have tremendous crowds as you see I mean every day and literally on twenty four hours notice and Joe does the circles and has three people someplace okay by the way did you see that is to decide to run the last for big rally she has been a reporter came up to him to ask a question said no no no stand back I put on your mask the mask have you been tested
I'm way too far away far away from those other people that's what he said I can't I'm gonna be okay he now worried about you he's not worried about the people out there breeder one we've had no negative
no negative effect we've had no negative effect that we've got thirty five forty fell right PP wanted Israelis to jealously finish up because I want to move on or not yes I would he's been totally irresponsible the way in which he has handled through the social distancing people Warren mass basically encouraging not to all right and he's a form if you could get the crowds he would have done the same thing but you can't nobody Katelyn calling upon a Medicare supplement can we move on to the economy yes the economy is I think it's fair to say recovering faster than expected from the shut down much faster in the second quarter the unemployment rate fell to eight point four percent last month the federal reserve says the hit to growth which is going to be there is not going to be nearly as big as they had expected president trump you say we are in a V. shaped recovery of vice president Biden you say it's more of a case shape what difference does that mean to the American people in terms of the economy president trump in this segment you go first so we built the greatest economy in history we close it down because of the China plague when the play came in we close it down which was very hard psychologically to do he didn't think we should close it down and he was wrong again two million people would be dead now instead of still two hundred and four thousand people is too much one person is too much shoulda never happened from China but what happened is we closed it down and now we're re opening and we're doing record business we had ten point four million people in a four month period that we've put back into the work force that's a record the likes of which nobody's ever seen before and he wants to close down the he will shut it down again he will destroy this country you know a lot of people between drugs and alcohol and depression when you start shutting it down you take a look at what's happening in some of your Democrat run states where they have these tough shutdowns and I'm telling you it's because they don't want to open it one of them came out last week you saw that %HESITATION we're gonna open up on November ninth one
have a nice because it's after the election they think they're hurting us by keeping them close to hurting people people know what to do they can social distance they can wash their hands they can wear masks they can do whatever they want but they can't open the states up when you look at North Carolina when you look and these governors are under siege Pennsylvania Michigan and a couple of others you can open the state so it's not fair you're talking about almost as like being in prison and you look at what's going on with divorce look at what's going on with alcoholism and drugs it's a very very sad thing and he'll close down the whole country this guy will close down the whole country and destroy our country our country is coming back incredibly well setting records as it does it we don't need somebody to come in and say let's shut it down all right your two minutes Sir we're now move to you
as I as I said posing the question the president says it's a V. shaped recovery you say it's a case shaped recovery what's the difference the difference is millionaires and billionaires like him in the middle of covert crisis have done very well another said billionaires of ray have made another three hundred billion dollars because of his profligate tax cut proposal in he only focus on the market but you folks at home you folks living in Scranton in Claremont and all the small towns in working class towns in America how will you do this guy pay twelve total of seven hundred fifty dollars Rotax anywhere well right now Sir it's just wrong state I understand you've agreed to the two minutes so please let them happen I get my time back the fact is that he is in fact worked on this in a way that he's going to be the first president on states to leave office having fewer jobs in his administration then when he became president fewer jobs then we became friends first one in American history secondly the people who have lost their jobs or those people who have been on the front lines those people who have been saving our lives those people who have run out there dying people who want putting themselves in a way to make sure that we could all try to make it and the idea that he is insisting that we and go forward and open when you have almost half the states in America with a significant increase in covert desks and covert cases in the United States America and he wants to open up more why C. one open up why does he take care of the match he can't fix the economy until you fix the covert crisis and he has no intention of doing anything about making it better for you all at home in terms of your health and your safety schools where schools open because it costs a lot of money to open safely you know they they were going to give his administration to give the teachers a school students bass then they decided no I couldn't do that because it's not a national emergency not a Nash
emergency they've done nothing to help small businesses nothing there closely one is six is now gone he ought to get on the job and take care of the needs of the American people so we can open say right your time is up Sir well we're going to get to respond to that welcome to you both had two minutes Sir excuse me he made a statement Arkansas digital want their schools no people want their schools open they don't want to be shut down they don't want their state shut down they want their restaurants I look at New York it's so sad what's happening in New York it's almost like a ghost town and I'm not sure can ever recover what they've done in New York people want their places open they want to get back to the local daily care safe but they want their schools I'm the one that brought back football by the way I brought back football it was me and I'm very happy to do it all right that's a little high %HESITATION a very proud of me and you know when it's a gentleman to your economic plans going forward in a moment but first Mr president as you well now there's a new report that in twenty sixteen the year you were elected president and twenty seventeen your first year as president that you paid seven hundred fifty dollars a year in federal income tax each of those years that I know that you pay a lot of other taxes but I'm asking you the specific question is it true that you paid seven hundred fifty dollars in federal income taxes each of those two year high paid millions of dollars in taxes millions of dollars of income tax and let me just tell you there was a story in one of the papers say what's your tax I paid thirty eight million dollars one year I pay twenty seven million dollars tax returns I went %HESITATION you'll see it as soon as it's finished you'll see it you know I wanted to go to the board of elections there's a hundred eighteen pager so report that says everything I have every bank I have I'm totally under leverage because the assets are extremely good and we have a very good way
have a specific question which I let me just I understand hi I just
Mr president I'm asking you a question will you tell us how much you paid in federal income taxes in twenty sixteen and twenty seven to millions of dollars you paid millions of dollars of dollars are not seven hundred years of dollars and you get to see it and you'll get to
let me along you Chris let me just say this I think that it was the tax laws I don't want to pay tax because before I came here I was a private developer I was a private business people like every other private personal assistant did they go through the laws and that's what it is he passed a tax bill that gave us all these privileges for depreciation and for a tax credits we build the building we get tax credits like the hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue you get a massive which by the way was given to me by the Obama administration if you can believe that now the man got tired enough right after that happened but I don't I don't buy a new one respond yeah I do want to respond look the tax code that made him the put him in a position that he pays less tax than a school teacher make them earn the money a school teacher makes is because of him take he says he's smart because you can take advantage of the tax code and he does take advantage of tax so that's why I'm gonna lemonade to trump tax cuts and we're gonna we're gonna live in a toast okay and make sure that we invest in the people who in fact need to help people out there need help but what do you do it over the last twenty five years I because
former presidential things up you are senator and the worst
Erica's ever had
let me just say you know I've done more in in forty seven months I've done more than you've done in forty seven years jail we've done things that you never even thought of including mixing the broken military that you gave me I'm not taking care of that Mr president we're talking about the economy I'd like to ask you about your plans going forward because of Mr vice president your economic plan
if you were to be elected president %HESITATION focuses a lot on big government big taxes big spending I want to focus first on the taxes you propose more than four trillion dollars over a decade and new taxes on individuals making more than four hundred thousand dollars a year and on corporations president trump says that that kind of an increase in taxes he is going to hurt the economy is is just coming out of a recession well just take a look at what does the the analysis brown by Wall Street firms points out that might my economic plan would create seven million more jobs in his in four years number one and number two it would create an additional one trillion dollars in economic growth because it would be about buying American that we have to we're going to make this federal government spends six hundred billion dollars year on everything from ships to steel toe buildings and the like and under my proposal we're gonna make sure that every penny of that has to be made by a company so I'm talking about taxes not spending well I'm not but by the way I'm gonna limit eight significant over the tax are not make the the the corporate tax twenty eight percent should be twenty one percent you have nineteen companies in ninety one companies federal I mean in the fortune five hundred you don't pay a single penny in tax making billions of dollars
vice pres Obama because you in fact pass that that we charge for progenitor and then you don't have it you got it on a condom me blue it's never been the kind
Mr president may pick up on that you would continue you're free market approach lower taxes more deregulation correct not lower taxes American people but let me let me excuse me in but in Obama's you talk about the economy booming it turns out that in Obama's final three years as president more jobs were created a million and a half more jobs that in the first three years of your presidency they had the slowest recovery since nineteen economic recovery since nineteen twenty nine it was the slowest recovery also they took over something that was down here all you have to do is turn on the lights and you pick up a lot but at the slowest economic recovery since nineteen twenty nine let me talk about the stock market when the stock market goes up that means jobs it also means four oh one K.'s if you got in if you ever became president with your ideas you want to terminate my tax my taxes I'll tell you what you lose half of the companies that have poured in here will leave and plan after already here they leave places have they will leave and you will have an operation the likes of which you've never seen look this week
the worst recession short of a depression in American history I was asked to bring it back we were able to have an economic recovery that crazy job you're talking about we handed him a booming economy he blew it wasn't he didn't wasn't bombing it was the week street services
is it fair to say he blew it when when that was record on them low unemployment before Calvin yeah but maybe because what he did even before covert manufacturing one the whole manufacturing went not a whole extra Chris Webber to press number three they said that you would know your number to call Chris Chris they said it would
all to bring back manufacturing I brought back seven hundred thousand jobs they brought back nothing they gave up in manufacturing we
did fair I'm the guy
I thank him we brought back I was asked to bring back Chrysler and General Motors brought him back right here in the state of Ohio and Michigan he blew it they're gone he blew it and in fact they're going high %HESITATION had the best year it's ever had last year Michigan had the best year they've ever had is not any of our company's name in from Germany from John and I went to Michigan to Ohio not had
Mr vice president and so you take a look at what he's actually done he's done very little his trade deals are the same way he talks about these great trade deals here talk about the art of the deal China's made perfected the art of the steal we have a higher deficit with China now than we did before with the highest deficit trade deficit with Mexico launched into China eight your last show and no wonder your son goes entity takes out what he takes out his ID dollars takes out billions of dollars to manage he makes millions of dollars and also said while we're at it why is just out of curiosity the mayor of Moscow's wife gave you seven three and a half million dollars as well you deserve it what do you do with the research on
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he's a Mormon mission because he knows I have the truth his position is been totally thoroughly described by everybody well by the
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bye everyone has discredited matters that might affect the price %HESITATION testified under oath so this
Mr thank you people under the age of three and a half five hours ago he testified under oath that his administration said I did my job and I did it very well I don't know where they are every well I'll give you the list of potential never had surgery they've you've already fired most of them because they did not have a job some people don't well
we went in to get the final word well it's hard to get any word with this clown excuse me this is changing no no no Mr president
so that is simply why did I deserve three and a half million from Moscow look here's the deal we want to talk about families in ethics I don't want to do that and I mean his family we could talk about all night his family sorry family
fortune coming down and helping out with governance and that
Mr
no one of the most this is not a
about your family
that's not true it doesn't want to talk about what you need you the American people it's about you that's we're talking about
that's the end of the segment one moment we're moving on he didn't take that well I was a president
be honest it's a very important
the answer is no I discerned with a billion dollars of your
you know when you're ready not
doing it you're going to be true gentleman is I hate to raise my voice to me why should I be different than the two of you so here is the data point we have
five six segments we have ended that segment we're going to go to the next segment in that segment you if you're gonna have to uninterrupted moments in those two interrupted minutes Mister president you can say anything you want I've been asked a question about race but if you want to answer about something else go ahead but what we I think that the country would be better served if we allowed both people to speak with fewer interruptions I'm I'm appealing to you Sir to do that and him too well frankly you been doing more in Iraq but he does funny well less than %HESITATION less money now less than you have let's please continue one
the issue of rice vice president Biden you say that president trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville three years ago when he talked about very fine people on both sides was what directly led you
to launch this run for president sure president trump you have often said that you believe you have done more for black Americans than any president with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln my question for the two of you is why should voters trust you rather than your opponent to deal with the race issues facing this country over the next four years vice president Biden you go first
it's about equity in a quality it's about decency it's about the constitution and we have never walked away from trying to court require equity for everyone equality for the whole of America but we never accomplish but we've never walked away from it like he has done it is true the reason I got the racism most people close your eyes remember what those people look like coming out of the fields carrying torches the veins bulging sh boom they are just spewing anti semitic bile in a company by the Ku Klux Klan young woman got killed and that's surprising when he thought he should remain very fine people on both sides no prisoners ever says anything like that in a sense it is it is a novel set answer second point I'd make is that when Floyd was killed when Mr Ford was killed there was a peaceful protest in front of the White House what did he do he came out of his Barker had the military to use tear gas on she can walk across to a church and hold up the Bible and then what happened after that the bishop of that very church said that it was a disgrace the general who was with him said he only only ever watched through is divide people not unite people all this is a president who has used everything as a dog whistle to try to generate racist hatred racist division this is a man who in fact you talk about helping African Americans one in one thousand African Americans has been killed beds because of the cold the corona virus and if he doesn't do something quickly by the end of the year one in five hundred will have been killed one in five hundred African Americans this man this man is serving as a savior of African Americans this man cares at all this man's done virtually nothing look the fact is that you have to look at what he's talked about you have to look at what he did and what he did has been disastrous for the African American community so president trump you have to
that's why should Americans trust you over your opponent to deal with raising the crime bill nineteen ninety four where you call them super predators African Americans are super predators and they've never forgotten it they've never forgotten genocide no Sir it says two minutes so you did that and they call you super predator and I'm letting people out of jail now that you have treated the African American population community you have treated the black community about as bad as anybody in this country you did the nineteen that and that's why if you look at the polls I'm doing better than any Republican is done in a long time because they saw what you did you call them super predators and you've called them worse than that because you look back at your testimony over the years you've called them a lot worse than that as far as the church is concerned and as far as the generals are concerned we just got the support of two hundred mil two hundred and fifty military leaders and generals total support law enforcement almost every law enforcement group in the United States I have Florida I have Texas I have Ohio I have every excuse me Portland the sheriff just came out today and he said I support president trump I don't think you have any law enforcement you can't even say the word loan for us because if you say those words you're gonna lose all of your radical left supporters and why are you saying those words why don't you say the words law enforcement because you know what if they called us in Portland we would put out that fire in a half an hour but they won't do it because they're run by radical left Democrats if you look at Chicago if you look at any place you want to look Seattle they heard we were coming in the following day and they put up their hands and we got back Seattle Minneapolis we got it back Joe because we believe in law and order but you don't the top ten cities in just about the top forty cities are run by Democrats in many cases radical left and they've got you wrapped around their finger Joe to a point where you don't want to say anything about law and order and I'll tell you what
the people of this country want and demand long order and you're afraid to even say it all right I want to I want to return to the question of race vice president Biden after the grand jury in the Brianna Taylor case decided not to charge any of the police with the homicide you said it raises the question quote whether justice could be equally applied in America do you believe that there is a separate but equal system of justice for blacks in this country yes there is a systematic research systemic injustice in this country in education and work and and and and law enforcement and the and the way in which isn't enforced but look the vast majority of police officers are good decent honorable men and women they risk their lives every day to take care of us but there are some bad apples and when they occur when they find them they have to be to sort it out they have to be held accountable they have to be held accountable and what I'm going to do is press the United States is called thank H. together an entire group of people at the White House book everything from the civil rights groups to the police officers the police chiefs and we're gonna work this out we're gonna work this out so we changed the way in which we have more transparency and when these things happen he's cops aren't happy to see what happened to George Floyd these kind of cops aren't happy to see what happened there brown and Taylor most don't like it but we have to have a system where people are held accountable when and by the way violence in response is never appropriate never appropriate peaceful protesters violence is never a profile right now what is peace protest when they run through the metal and talent from burned out and kill people
can you say it is
like to continue with the price I promise we're going to get to the issue of law and order in a moment
this month your administration %HESITATION directed federal agencies to end racial sensitivity training that addresses white privilege were critical race theory why did you decide to do that to end racial sensitivity training and do you believe that there is systemic racism in this country Sir I ended it because it's racist I ended it because a lot of people were complaining that they were asked to do things that were absolutely insane that it was a radical revolution that was taking place in our military in our schools all over the place and you know it and so does everybody else right I know he would know what is
racial sensitivity training to view or a certain person you had no status in life it was sort of a reversal and if you look at the people we we paying people hundreds of thousands of dollars to teach very bad ideas and frankly very sick ideas and and really they were teaching people to hate our country and I'm not going to do that I'm not going to allow that to happen
we have to go back to the core values of this country they were teaching people that our country is a horrible place it's a racist place and they were teaching people to hate our country and I'm not going to allow that to happen vice president Biden nobody's doing that he's just he's gracious you just out here's the deal I I know a lot more about it I'm not a technician
the fact is that there is racial insensitivity people have to be made aware of what other people feel like what is it what what in salsa what is the meaning to them it's important people know they don't want to many people don't wanna hurt other people's feelings but it's to me it makes a big difference it makes a gigantic difference in the way a child is able to grow up and have a sells a sense of self esteem it's a little bit like how this guy and his friends look down on so many people look down their nose on people like Irish Catholics like me and groping Scranton they look down on people who don't have money they look down on people who are of a different faith they look down on people or a different color in fact we're all Americans the only way we're going to bring this country together is bring everybody together is nothing we cannot do if we do it together we can take this on and we can defeat racism rather than I mean president trump's her during the Obama Biden administration there was tremendous division that was hatred you look at %HESITATION Fergus and you look at a you go to very many places look at Oakland look what happened in %HESITATION can look what happened in Baltimore look what happened frankly was more violent than what I'm even seeing now the reason this is that the key Democrats have run the city's ridiculous want to talk like you about law and order
eleven men silent you in favor of law and order I'm in favor of law you follow
this is
let and in order with justice where people get treated fairly and the fact of the matter is violent crime is down seventeen percent fifteen percent in our administration all right gone up on his wires down he much more all right
you're going to
president every record in the Mister president can be very hot because we're not gonna talk about lawn as we had trouble with democratic run cities such as our
it's been a dramatic increase in homicides in America this summer particularly and you often blame that on democratic mayors and democratic governors but in fact there have been equivalent spikes in Republican led cities like Tulsa and fort worth so the question is is this really a party issue I think there's a party issue you can bring in a couple of examples but if you look at Chicago what's going on in Chicago where a fifty three people were shot and eight died shot if you look at New York where it's going up like nobody's ever seen anything the numbers are going up a hundred hundred and fifty two hundred percent a crime also it is crazy what's going on and he doesn't want to say law and order because he can't because he loses radical left supporters and when she does that it's over with but if he ever got to run this country and they ran it the way he would want to run it we would have done by the way our suburbs would be gone and you would see problems like you all right suburb allegedly took a wrong turn I know several
I was raised in the suburbs this is not nineteen fifty all these dog whistles and racism at work anymore suburbs are by and large integrated there's many people today driving their kids to soccer practice and order of black and white and Hispanic in the same car as there have been any time in the past what's what really is a threat to the suburbs in their safety is his failure to deal with cold with their dying in the suburbs his failure to deal with the environment they're being flooded there be burned out because he has refused to do any that's why the suburbs are in trial I do want to talk about this issue of law and order though and in the joint recommendation that came from the Biden Bernie Sanders task force you talked about quote re imagining police say
first of all what is reimagining police in Maine and do you support the BC let me if I might finish the question what is reimagining police in Maine and do you support the black lives matter
%HESITATION it calls for %HESITATION it's for community control of police say look what I support is the police having the opportunity to deal with the problems they face and I'm not totally opposed to de funding the police officers it's a matter of fact police local police the only one to funding in his budget calls for four hundred million dollar cut in local law enforcement assistance they need more assistance they need when they show up for a nine eleven call to have someone with them as a psychologist or psychiatrist to keep them from having to use force and be able to talk people down we have to have community policing like we had before where the officers get to know the people in the communities that's when crime went down it didn't go up it went down and so we have to being that you know what they're talking about that is that now with that that is exactly the fun thing that actually that is not true he doesn't have any law
he has no law enforcement's not almost
good luck all right who do you have name one group that supports you name one group that came out and supported you go ahead I think we have time we don't have time to do it all right Sir
law enforcement group thank
and I think I'm going to I'm going to take back the
and I want to get to another subject which is the issue of protests in many cities that have turned violent in Portland Oregon especially we had a more than a hundred straight days of protests which I think you would agree to talk about peaceful protests many of those turned into riots Mr vice president if you say that people who commit crimes should be held accountable the question I have though is as the democratic nominee and earlier tonight you said that you are the Democratic Party right now have you ever called the democratic mayor of Portland or the democratic governor of Oregon and said Hey you got to stop this bring in the National Guard do whatever it takes but you'd stop the days and months of violence in Portland I don't hold public office I am a former vice president I've made it clear I made it clear my public statements that the violence should be prosecuted it should be prosecuted anyone who committed such a number I called for the people that's our latest gives me Sir you had never called for the leaders in Portland and in Oregon to close friend in the National Guard and knock off a hundred days arrives they can in fact take care of it if you just stay out of the way all really really
if the killer of a young man in the middle of the street and they shot him for three days residents from support president John anything
U. S. marshals in the front here business
and by the way you know his own former spokesperson said you know riots and chaos and violence help us because that's what this is all about I don't know who said that I do %HESITATION I think kellyanne Conway I don't think she said she said that at issue here sorry but there's a point where it is that that's what he is keeps trying to rile the video he doesn't want to calm things down instead of going in and talking to people and say let's get everybody together figure out how to deal with this what she do he just pours gasoline on the fire constantly every single solitary okay and and and this button up this segment I'm gonna give you a minute to answer Sir you have repeatedly criticized answer his stuff you have stated lightweight %HESITATION have you been talking about it I'm asking you I would love to know %HESITATION I love you know what we want to switch seats we could very quickly we can do that but I
so that it would be over there be no problem but I don't want to accept the National Guard you have repeatedly criticized the the vice president for not specifically calling out antifa and other left wing bring this groups but are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence and a number of these studies as we saw in kind OSHA and as we've seen in Portland sure you
at the plate but do it I don't has a I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing not from the right what do you what do you what do you say I'm willing to do anything I want to see what he has to answer to it said
do you want to call them what do you want to call and give me a name give me quite a surprise
you too can die problem assess and write
stand back and stand by but I'll tell you what I'll tell you what somebody's got to do something about antifa and the left because this is not a right
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white supremacist anti fur is an idea not an organization got a population that is tonight hi
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we're done Sir ever moving on to the next
an idea everybody
I should tell you the truth is about as a bad idea I tell you what I have no idea
and do you feel is a danger
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herds of hill overthrow you end up president I'm going to ask a question the president seeks a second term it is generally a referendum on his record but vice president Biden you like to quote one of your dad's sayings which is don't compare me to the almighty compare me to the alternative and in this case are you are the alternative looking at both of your records I'm going to ask each of you why should voters elect you president over your opponent in this segment president trump you go first two minutes because there is never been an administration or a president who has done more than I've done in a period of three and a half years and that's despite the impeachment hoax and you saw what happened today with Hillary Clinton where was a whole big con job but despite going through all of these things were had a fight both flanks in behind me and %HESITATION and above there has never been an administration that's done what I've done the greatest before covered came in the greatest economy in history lowest employment unemployment numbers everything was good everything was going and by the way there was unity going to happen people are calling me for the first time in years they were calling and they were saying it's time maybe and then what happened we got hit but now we're building it back up again a rebuilding of the military including space for some or all of the other things a a fixing of the the VA which was a mess under him three hundred eight thousand people died because they didn't have proper health care he will it was a mess and we now got a ninety one percent approval rating at the VA our vets we take care of our vets but we've rebuilt our military the job that we've done and I notice of some people say maybe the most important by the end of the first term I'll have approximately three hundred federal judges and court of appeals judges three hundred and hopefully three great Supreme Court judges justices that is a record the likes of which very few people and you know one of the reasons I have so many judge
ages because president Obama and him left me a hundred and twenty eight
judges to fill when you leave office you don't leave any judges that's like you just don't do that they left a hundred and twenty eight openings and if I were a member of his party because they have a little different philosophy I'd say if you left
US one hundred and twenty eight openings you can't be a good president you can't be a good vice president what I want to thank you because it gives us almost it'll probably be above that number by the end of this term I'm sorry three hundred judges it's a record looking at both your records why should voters elect you president as opposed to president trump presidents on interrupted under this president we become weaker sicker for more divided and more violent
when I was vice president we inherited a recession I was asked to fix it I did we left him a blue booming economy and he caused a recession with regard to be weaker the fact is that I've gone head to head with Putin made it clear to him we're not going to take any of his stuff he's Putin's puppy he still refuses to even say anything to put in about the bounty on the heads of American soldiers you send guys out in dollars a minute and a lot away from rice
Mr president your campaign agreed to both sides would get two minute answer is uninterrupted we'll hear your side of green to it and wanted to observe what your campaign agreed to is a ground rule okay Sir he never keeps his word
oracle question can you don't have thirty seconds yeah yes in my house all right so certainly reporter the billionaire's got much more much more wealthy five tune of over four three to four hundred billion dollars more just since kopen you were in the home you got was less you're in more trouble than you were before with terms of being more violent when we were in office for fifteen percent less violence in America than there is today he's president nana states it's on his watch and with regard to more divided the nation we can't stay divided we can't be this way and speaking of my son the way you talk about the military when you talk about them be losers and being and and and and and just being suckers my son was in Iraq he spent a year there he got it he got the bronze star he gets conspicuous service medal he was not a loser he was a patriot and the people left behind there were heroes and I resent each other your user talk about my son beau Biden you're trying
%HESITATION I know how
drone hunter got thrown out of the military he was thrown out dishonorably discharged that's not true
eight years and he didn't have a job interview became vice president once you're not a restaurant he made a fortune in Ukraine and China and Moscow seven
the players he my son watching John my son and he didn't have a job sun like a lot of people like a lot of people you know at home had a drug problem he's overtaken he's he's he's he's fixed it he's worked on it and I'm proud of what I was thinking
it's only
there's already been credited with both we've already been through this I think the American people would rather hear about more substantial subject well you know as the moderator Sir I'm gonna make a note three and a half million dollars Moscow
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hi I might run on the on that committee says it would more taxpayers money that reporters written for political reasons you know I'd like to talk about climate change over time okay the forest fires in the west are raging now they have burned millions of acres they have displaced hundreds of thousands of people when state officials they are blamed the fires on climate change Mr president you said I don't think the science knows over here for years you have pulled the U. S. out of the Paris climate accord you have rolled back a number of Obama environmental records what do you believe about the science of climate change and what will you do in the next four years to confront it I want crystal clean water and air I want beautiful clean air we have now the lowest carbon if you look at our numbers right now we are doing phenomenally but I haven't destroyed our businesses our businesses aren't put out of commission if you look at the Paris accord it was a disaster from our standpoint and people are actually very happy about what's going on because our business is doing well as far as the fires a concern you need forest management in addition to everything else the forest floors are loaded up with trees dead trees at a years old and they're like tinder and leaves and everything else you drop a cigarette in there the whole forest burns out you've got to have far as manager
what do you believe about the science of climate change Sir I believe that we have to do everything we can to have immaculate air a macular water and do whatever else we can that's good you know we're planting a billion trees the billion tree project and is very excited about IT that human
pollution Cassegrain house gas emissions contributes to the global warming up I think a lot of things too but I think to an extent yes I think to an extent yes but I also think we have to do better management of our forests every year I get the call California is burning California is burning if that was cleaned if that were if you had forest management good forest management you wouldn't be getting those calls you know in Europe they live they're far cities they call far cities they maintain their forests they manage their fires I was with the head of a major country it's a forest city he said Sir we have trees that are far more they they ignite much easier than California they shouldn't be that problem I spoke with the governor about I'm getting along very well with the governor but he said you know at some point you can't every year have hundreds of thousands of acres of land just burned to the ground of stuff that's burning down because of a lack of a matter if you believe in the science of climate change why have you rolled back the Obama clean power plan which limited carbon emissions in power plants why have you relax as he was driving energy prices through this guy have you relaxed fuel economy standards that we're going to create more pollution from cars not properly because what's happening is the car is much less expensive and it's a much safer car and you're talking about a tiny difference and then what would happen because of the cost of the car you would have at least double and triple the number of cars purchase we have the old slugs out there than a ten twelve years old if you did that the car would be safer it would be much cheaper but in the house in the five hundred they simply don't
cars off the market because people would be able to afford a car now %HESITATION so and by the way we're gonna see how that turns out but a lot of people agree with me many people the car has gotten so expensive because they have computers all over the place for an extra little bit of gasoline and does not intend and I'm okay with electric cars too I think I'm all for electric because I've given big incentives for electric cars but what they've done in California is just easy
vice president Biden I'd like you to to respond to the president's climate change record but I also want to ask you about the %HESITATION concern you propose two trillion dollars in green jobs you talk about no limits not abolishing but new limits on fracking ending the use of fossil fuels to generate electricity by twenty thirty five and zero not a mission of greenhouse gases by twenty fifty the president says a lot of these things would tank the economy and cost millions of job is absolutely wrong number one number two if in fact one twin ordered our ministration recovery act I was able to I was in charge able to bring down the cost of renewable energy to cheaper than are as cheap as coal and gas and oil nobody's going to build another Aug %HESITATION coal fired plant in America no one's going to build another oil fired plant America they're going to move to renewable energy number one number two we're going to make sure that we are able to take the federal fleet and turned into a fleet that's run on their electric vehicles making sure we can do that we're gonna put five hundred thousand charging stations and all of the highways so we're going to be building in the future we're going to build a new economy that in fact is going to provide for the ability of us to take four million buildings and make sure that they in fact are whether rice in a way that in fact women they'll they'll emit significantly less gas and oil because the heat will not be going out there so many things that we can do now to create thousands and thousands of jobs we can get to net zero in terms of energy production by twenty thirty five not only not costing people jobs creating jobs creating millions of good paying jobs not fifteen Bucks an hour but prevailing wage by having a new infrastructure that in fact is green and the first thing I will do I will re join the Paris accord I will join the Paris accord because with us out of it look what's happening
it's all falling apart and talk about someone who has no no relationship to deal with foreign policy Brazil the rain forest in Brazil or being torn down are being ripped out more more carbon is absorbed in that rain forest and every bit of carbon that's emitted in the United States instead of doing something about that I would be gathering up and making sure we had to come to the countries of the world coming up with twenty billion dollars a twenty billion dollars stop stop tearing down the forest and if you don't then you're gonna have stirred significant economic consequence about the argument that the president trump basically says that you have to balance environmental interests and economic interests and he's drawn his line we had drawn a line he still could for example make sure that we he wants to make sure that methane is not a problem we can you can now emit more methane without it being a problem message this is a guy who says that you don't have to have Miley standards for automobiles it exists now this is a guy who says that
the fact that it is it's all true and here's something about the green new deal and it's not to be a R. twenty billion as you said it's one hundred trillion dollars I'm talking about they want to
and rebuild the building it said that it is not a street that is not where airplanes are out of business I swear to car systems are out where they wanted to take out the cow is strong you know that's not true either right now this is a this is a one hundred that's more money than our country could make
here's if we're not quite the case
what a minister I actually have a starting your plan and it includes upgrading four million buildings whether rising to million homes over four years building one and a half million energy efficient homes as so the question becomes something the president is saying I think some people who support the president would say that sounds like it's going to cost a lot of money and hurt the economy what is good do is going to create thousands and millions of jobs good jobs let him finish Sir he don't know how to do that day in Dallas the fact is going to create millions of good paying jobs and these tax incentives to people for people whether eyes which she wants to get it get rid of it's going to make the economy much safer look how much you're paying now to deal with hurricane season with the deal with by the way he has an answer for our case he said maybe should drop a nuclear weapon on them they may I never said that I made it up and here's the deal you make up for you we're going to be in a position where we can create hard hard good jobs by making sure the environment is clean and we all are in better shape we spend billions of dollars now billions of dollars on floods hurricanes rising seas we're in real trouble look what's happened just in the Midwest with these storms come through and wiped out entire sections in counties in Iowa that didn't happen before the because of global warming we make up fifteen percent of the world's problems we in fact but the rest of what we got to get him to come along that's what we have to get back into back into the Paris accord all right gentlemen we agree so why didn't he do it for forty seven years you were vice president why don't you get the world China sends up real dirt India Russia does indeed it does they all do we're supposed to be good and by the way he made a couple of statements the green new deal is a hundred trillion dollar that is not not a bad idea that's one of
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the military said I said something about the military he and his friends made it up and then they went with it I never said okay
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a little trouble myself and and about the economy and about this question of what it's going to cost the the economy
A. L. and the idea of what what your environmental
green new deal will pay for itself as we move forward we're not going to build plants that in fact our great polluting plant using or building a new jail for me to support now I don't support the green
well that's a big statement are accepting judges the radical left I said I support utilizing plan that I put forward I'll cut the Biden plan which is different than what he calls the radical degree nudity all right gentlemen final segment
election integrity as we meet tonight millions of Americans are receiving mail in ballots are going to vote early how confident should we be that this will be a fair election and what are you prepared to do over the next five plus weeks because it'll not only be to election day but also counting some ballots mail in ballots after election day what are you prepared to do to reassure the American people that the next president will be the legitimate winner of this election in the final segment Mr vice president of the first prepared to let people vote we should go to I will vote dot com decide how they're going to vote when they're going to vote and what means by which they're going to vote his own homeland security director as well as FBI director says there's no evidence at all that mail in ballots are a source of a V. manipulated and cheesy they said that the fact is that they're gonna be millions of people because a covert they're going to be voting by mail in ballots like he does by the way he sits behind the resolute desk consent is valid to Florida number one number two we're gonna make sure that those people who want to vote in person are able to vote because enough poll watchers are there to make sure they can socially distance the polls are open on time and they'll pull stay open until the votes are counted and this is all about trying to dissuade people from voting because he's trying to conflict scare people thank you that is not gonna be legitimate show up and vote you will determine the outcome of this election vote vote vote if you're able to vote early interstate vote early if you're able to vote in person voter person fo whatever way is the best way for you because you will he cannot stop you from being able to determine the outcome of this election and in terms of whether or not when the votes are counted and are all counted that will be accepted if I win that will be accepted if I lose I'll be accepted by the way if in fact he says
he's not sure what he's going to accept well let me tell you some it don't matter because if we get the votes it's going to be all over he's going to go he can't stay in power it won't happen it won't happen so vote just make sure you understand you'll have it in your control the determine what this country's gonna look like the next four years is it going to change again four more years of these lights
the president two minutes so when I listen to Joe talking about a transition %HESITATION there's been no transition from when I won I won that election and if you look at crooked Hillary Clinton if you look at all of the different people there was no transition because they came after me trying to do a coup they came after me spying on my campaign they started from the day I won and even before I won from the day I came down the escalator with a First Lady they were a disaster they were disgraced to our country and we've caught him we've called them all we've got it all on tape with Guatemala by the way you gave the idea for the Logan act against general Flynn you better take a look at that because we caught you in a sense and president Obama was sitting in the office you know about it too so don't tell me about a free transition as far as the ballots are concerned it's a disaster eight solicited balance okay solicit it is okay you're soliciting your asking they send it back you send it back I did that if you have an unsolicited they're sending millions of ballots all over the country this fraud they found him in creeks they found some with the name trump just happen to have the name trump just the other day in a wastepaper basket they're being sent all over the place they said to %HESITATION and a Democrat area they sent out a thousand ballots everybody got to balance this is going to be a fraud like you've never seen the other thing it's nice on November third you're watching and you see who won the election and I think we're going to do well because people are really happy with the job we've done but you know what we won't know we might not know for months because these ballots are going to be all over take a look at what happened in Manhattan take a look at what happened in New Jersey take a look at what happened in Virginia and other places they're not losing two percent one percent which by the way is too much an election can be won or lost with that delusion thirty and forty percent it's a fraud and it's a shame and can you imagine where they say you have to have your ballot in by November tenth November tenth that means
that's seven days after the election in theory should have been enough okay we have managers that Sir all run by Democrats as two minutes
your immigrants is such an affront to ring you're going to be able to continue you have been charging for months and mail in balloting is going to be a disaster you say it's raining I said it's going to lead to fraud but in twenty eighteen the last mid term election thirty one million people voted mail in voting that was a quarter more than a quarter of all the voters that cast their ballots by mail now that millions of mail in ballots have gone out what are you gonna do about it and are you counting on the Supreme Court including the justice Barrett to settle in a disk yeah I think I think I'm counting on them to look at the ballots definitely I don't think well I hope we don't need them in terms of the election itself but for the balance I think so because what's happening is incredible I just heard I read today where at least one percent of the ballots for twenty sixteen were invalidated they they take them we don't like them we don't like it after a millions of ballots going out
your immigrants is such an affront to ring you're going to be able to continue you have been charging for months and mail in balloting is going to be a disaster you say it's raining I said it's going to lead to fraud but in twenty eighteen the last mid term election thirty one million people voted mail in voting that was a quarter more than a quarter of all the voters that cast their ballots by mail now that millions of mail in ballots have gone out what are you gonna do about it and are you counting on the Supreme Court including the justice Barrett to settle in a disk yeah I think I think I'm counting on them to look at the ballots definitely I don't think well I hope we don't need them in terms of the election itself but for the balance I think so because what's happening is incredible I just heard I read today where at least one percent of the ballots for twenty sixteen were invalidated they they take and we don't like them we don't like it after a millions of ballots going out
you do a solicited ballot no no that's okay no I'm asking you about the fact that millions of people you go
you go invalid but like I think it's a like a
millions of people either do Chris a solicited ballot where you're sending it into sending it back in you sending they have Mehlman with lots of it did you see what's going on take a look at West Virginia Mehlman selling the ballots if they're being sold they're being dumped in rivers this is a horrible thing for a country whose name is not is no this is not going to end well
this is
in a five states
and ballots for the last decade or more five including two Republican states and you don't have to solicit the ballot it's sent to you it sent to your home what we're saying is they're saying is that has to be a postmarked by the first time by election day if you don't get in until the seventh eighth ninth it still should be counted he's just afraid of counting the votes
I want to continue with the one
resident Biden Christie so wrong when you make things happen his knees
vice president Biden the biggest problem in fact over the years with mail in voting has not been fraud historically it has been that sizeable number sometimes hundreds of thousands of ballots are thrown out because they have not been properly spelled out or there is some other irregularity or technology for %HESITATION the deadline so the question I have is are you concerned that the Supreme Court with the justice Barrett will settle any dispute I am concerned that any court would settle this because here's the deal when you when you file when you get a ballot and you fill it out you're supposed to have an affidavit if you didn't know you have someone say that this is me you should be able to if in fact you can verify that you win the before the ballot is thrown out that sufficient to be able to count the ballots because someone made a mistake and not
dotting the correct guy who they voted for testify say who they voted for the Saint Jude fat is totally legitimate all right excited because I know you have a
swamping system you know it can't be done you know it can't already all right and so now what else is
in the final
right we couldn't control and it's it's an eight stratus collection workers are prohibited currently by law eight states from even beginning the process
let's even take them out of the envelopes and flatten on until election day that means that it's likely because there's going to be a huge increase in male and validating that we are not going to know on election night who the winner is that it could be days it could be weeks every month until we find out who the the the new president is so high first for user finally for the for the vice president I hope neither of you will interrupt the other will you urge your supporters to stay calm during this extended period not to engage in any civil unrest and will you pledge tonight that he will not declare victory until the election has been independently certified president trump
my supporters to go into the polls and watch very carefully because that's what has to happen I am urging them to do it as you know today that was a big problem in Philadelphia they went in to watch there will be a call Paul watches a very safe very nice thing they were thrown out they weren't allowed to watch you know why because bad things happen in Philadelphia bad things and I emerging I am Margie my people I hope it's going to be a fair election if it's a family thing on lock I am a hundred percent on board but if I see tens of thousands of ballots being manipulated I can't go along with that and I'll do as I'm from a common design
be able to take the meaning of a fraudulent election yes
they're not equipped these people are equipped to handle it number one number two okay they cheat thank you Hey they found ballots in a wastepaper basket three days ago and they all had the name Jerry balance it with military they all had the name trump on them vice versa that's good vice president Biden final question for you will you urge your supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted and will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified yes here's the deal the account the balance as you pointed out some of these ballots in some states can't even be opened until election day and if there's thousands of ballots going to take time to do it and by the way our military they've been voting by ballots for service at the end of the civil war in affect and effect and that's and that's what's happened going to happen why was it not why is it for them somehow not fraudulent it's the same process it's honest no one is established at all that there is fraud related to mail in ballots that this somehow it's a fraudulent process already been established take a look at
you had an opportunity
they have no idea what was on the line go ahead he has no idea what he's talking about here's the deal the fact is I will accept it and he will too you know why because once the winner is declared after all the all the ballots are counted all the votes are counted that would be the end of it that'll be the end of it and if it's me in fact five is if it's not me how support the outcome and I'll be a president not just for the Democrats I'll be present for Democrats and Republicans and this guy I want to smack
I don't know we can say that's the under this is the end of this ballot count we're not leaving you to be continued as in more debates as we go on president trump vice president Biden has been an interesting hour and a half I want to thank you both for participating in the first of three debates that you've agreed to engage and we want to thank Case Western Reserve University and the Cleveland Clinic for hosting this event the next debate sponsored by the commission on presidential debates will be one week from tomorrow October seventh at the university of Utah in Salt Lake City the two vice presidential nominee is vice president Mike pence and senator Kamilla Harris will debate at nine PM eastern not night we hope you watch until then thank you
and good night
thank you
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